BRIEF OF THE JOINT MEETING WITH JS/MOD AND OFB OFFICIALS AT OFB ON 30/10/2013

CIRCULAR NO. 5

No.NDGBGOA(CE)/24/2013-11                                         Date:- 01-11-2013

       NDGBGOA MEETING WITH HONORABLE Jt. SECRETARY/P&C HELD AT ORDNANCE FACTORY BOARD KOLKATA on 30.10.2013 at 1500Hrs in presence of MEMBER/PER AND OTHER OFB OFFICIALS.

The following were present.

         Official side                                                                   Association Side

1)       Honorable Smt. Kusum Singh. JS/MOD                Sri S.Chandrakanth Rao/President

2)      Sri Yamdagni, Member/Per                                     Sri Velayudhan/Vice President          

3)      Sri A.M. Nayak, DDG/IR&NG                               Sri Jaigopal Singh/General Secretary

4)      Sri Bhatnagar,   Dir/NG                                           Sri V.K.Srivastava Jt. Secretary

5)      Smt Vani Anand Singh, Dir/Admin                           Sri B.M.Barik, Organising Secretary

6)      Sri S,K,Singh, Dir/IR                                               Sri G.V.N.Reddy

7)      Sri B.B.Dash, Dir/NG                                              Sri S.Prabhakar

8)      Sri B.Sarkar, US/MOD (D-Fy-1)

      Addressing the house Sri S.K. Singh,DIR/IR, welcomed Jt. Secretary /MOD, Member/per and other OFB Officials. He welcomed all the NDGBGOA representatives.

General Secretary, Sri Jaigopal Singh addressed the house and thanked the Defence Secretary (Production) for his initiation for the joint meeting. He also thanked Jt. Secretary (MOD), Member/Personal and other OFB Officials for extending their support and sparing their valuable time.

 The point wise discussions are as follows

1.      Cadre Review for Group’B’ Gazetted Officers(JWM Tech/Non Tech and PS)

        OFB’s Comments: The Officials expressed that OFB had submitted the cadre review proposal to MOD on 09.10.2013.

       The GS/NDGBGOA expressed his deep concern about the submission of the cadre review proposal without taking the consensus of the Assn. He also brought to the notice of the house that NDGBGOA had already submitted the cadre review proposal to MOD and OFB. He requested the house to discuss regarding the proposal which has been sent by OFB to MOD.

      Jt. Secretary (MOD) asked the OFB to submit the house about the OFB submitted cadre review proposal.

     OFB replying to the point stated that they have recommended for Rs 5400 GP in PB II for JWM (SG) (2730 post) for meeting the functional requirement in Ordnance Factories.

      NDGBGOA strongly protested the OFB proposal and demanded to create Rs 5400(Section Manager) and Rs 6600 GP in PB-III (Sr Section Manager) in JWM Cadre as proposed by NDGBG Assn.

        After threadbare discussion, Jt.Secretary directed OFB to re examine the submitted proposal. She replied that recently there was order from Ministry of finance regarding financial position and non creation of post in Govt organization. As there was an injustice to the JWM cadre in 6^th CPC, she promised to take care for JWM Cadre in 7^th CPC. First of all we should try our best in DOP&T and MoF to get 5400 PB II for JWM (SG) (2730 post).Finally Assn has demanded to get Grade Pay of 5400 in PB III for JWM (SG) (2730 post) and 5400 PB II for rest of the JWMs. Joint Secretary (MOD) assured to take up the matter in DOP&T and MoF. 

     GS/NDGBGOA requested Jt. Secretary that before finalization of the cadre review proposal or any other points concerned to Group B cadre; the same may be discussed with two Associations (i.e. NDGBGOA and IOFGOA). Jt. Secretary directed OFB to take consensus of the two Assns before finalization of any points pertains to Group B cadre.

              GS/NDGBGOA requested to maintain parity in percentage of post with respect to technical and non technical in JWM Cadre. After implementation of 5^th CPC ,MOD (vide letter no-41/1,2002/III/D FY(II) dated 1^st October 2002) has redistributed the post of JWM (Technical-2609 post) and JWM(Non Technical-131 post) in the ratio of 15% and 5% respectively as a result there is a stagnation in promotion from CM/NT which clearly shows the discrepancy. Therefore same ratio should be maintained in  JWM (Technical) and JWM ( Non Technical) in the cadre review.  

            GS told that PS cadre review is required at par with the OFB and MOD. Jt. Secretary stated that the cadre review proposal for PS already has been approved by MOD in consultation with Ministry of Finance. Hence in this stage the same cannot be changed and the ASSN submissions will be reviewed in the later stage.

  

2.      Nature of Duties of JWM(T/NT)  may be published in all Ordnance Factories:

    OFB while replied that as per functional requirements the JWM’s are to be deployed in the factories by the concerned GM’s.From Assn side, Org. Secretary expressed his objections and submitted to the house that during the year 1984 CM to FM duties were published by OFB. Afterwards many changes in the middle management cadre have been occurred in Ordnance Factories but OFB is not at all concerned on this issue. In 2008 OFB has published duties and responsibilities of Group A Officers (AWM to GM) in which it has been mentioned that the duties of HOS (JWM) is being performed by AWM’s and WM’s which shows contradictory.Org. Secretary brought to the notice that as per RTI act Responsibility and Accountability of each cadre should be published by the all the organization but OFB is least bother regarding it. He also stated that due to non publication of duties of JWM’s they were deprived neither as a Gazetted officer nor they are allowed for other benefits which are given to other cadres like OT and NDA etc.After elaborate discussions Jt. Secretary instructed OFB to publish the duties of JWM’s.

3.      MACP Benefit to be given to  JWMs and PS as per Promotional Hierarchy:

 OFB stated that based on the various court verdicts, OFB had sent a proposal vide  letter No. 01/6^th CPC/MACPS/PCC(A/A) (Pt) Dated 16.09.2013 to MOD for taking up the matter with DOP&T for a decision, A reminder had also been sent on 27.09.2013.

             Jt. Secretary stated that MOD will take up the matter with DOP&T for early finalization and for publication of the same.

5.      Removal of Anomalies in Promotion from JWM to AWM promotion in O.F.Board:

           OFB had stated that already 76 promotions from JWM to AWM has cleared and for  promotion. from JWM to AWM,  around 210 AWM vacancies proposal was  already forwarded to MoD for further action.

6.      Annually Publishing of Seniority List of JWM (T/NT) and PS.

OFB stated that they will publish the Seniority List within time. GS told that promotion/seniority/service conditions of JWMs(7694) are being carried out by A/NG section along with Chargeman and OS(1300) as a result there many discrepancy and problems being faced by the cadre. Due to heavy workload the A/NG is not in a position to complete the task within the time frame. Hence separate section for JWM’s are to be formed or the same to be shifted to A/G Section’.OFB stated that they will look in to the matter by either increase in strength in A/NG section or to open new section.

7.      Revision of SRO and recruitment Rules for JWM (T/NT) and PS:

OFB replied that the proposal for revision of RR/SRO for PS is submitted to M of D for consideration and onward processing with DOPT and other agencies.

The drafts SRO/RR for the post of JWM (T) and (NT) have already finalised and shall be submitted to M of D shortly.In that OFB replied that description Ministerial cadre has already been removed in the SRO.The GS told that before finalization SRO/RR the our Associtions views should be taken in to consideration.  

JS/MOD instructed DDG/NG/OFB to finalize the SRO by consulting both the Associations before finalization.
Assn demanded for provision of LDCE for the post of AWM from JWM cadre like in IPS cadre.Moreover talented people from JWMs are quitting the job and going for other department which can be stopped and utilised for our organisation. JS/MOD replied that this proposal will be examined and accordingly further action wil be taken. 

7. Revoke cancelled transfer orders of JWM before implementation of transfer policy. All transferee JWMs may be released:

                  While replying OFB stated that revised transfer policy is under finalization with OFB. After finalization of the same all the pending transfers are to be considered.

                    GS strongly protested the OFB stand and asked to release the pending transfer orders which are cancelled by OFB. Due to unilateral decision of OFB the pending transfer JWM’s are suffering a lot and he also requested that before finalization of the new transfer policy they should be released.

                   JS instructed DDG/NG that the demand of the Assn is genuine and asked to release the pending transfer cases which are cancelled by OFB.

DDG/NG stated that the representations which have received for consideration in the cancelled transfer order cases will be release immediately.   

8. Granting of PLB  to Group’B’ Gazetted Officers(JWM and PS).

           OFBoard replied that as per Govt. Order Gazetted Officers are not eligible for PLB. In this regard Assn demanded that it should be reviewed at present depending upon the nature of work performed by different cadres. There was an order from MOD in the year of 2000 that all the Non Gazetted employees should be paid PLB depending upon the nature of work performed during that period but it has not been reviewed now.

Finally Joint Secretary asked OFB to forward the recommendation which will be examined at MOD.

9. Restoration of Unauthorized withdrawal of Promotion Benefits i.e Incremental Benefit who have earned   promotion after 1-1-2006 to 29-08-2008 before implementation of 6^th CPC Report.

       OFB replied that there is no instruction to restore the incremental benefit who earned from 1-1-2006 to 29-8-2006.After deliberate discussions on this point, JS/MoD told that she will examine the matter.

10. Set up of Separate Mechanism for settlement of Grievances of Group’B’ Gazetted Officer.

          NDGBGOA strongly demanded a separate forum for resolving the issues of Group B gazette Officers are having many cadre related problems after implementation of 6^th CPC in Ordnance Factories. It should be resolved by a separate mechanism; otherwise the important middle management cadre will lose their morality.   

        After deliberate discussion JS (P&C)/MoD conveyed that there will be quarterly (once in three months) joint meeting (MOD, OFB and Assn) at OF Board for resolving the issues of Group B Gazetted Officers. General Secretary requested that both Assn (NDGBGOA & IOFGOA) should participate in the meeting.

 The meeting ended with vote of thanks to MOD officials and OFB Officials by Org.Secretary/NDGBGOA. 

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Copy to:-

1.       Mrs. Kusum Singh,Jt.Secy(P&C)/MoD,New Delhi

2.      Shri S.Yamdagini,Member/Per,O.f.Board,Kolkata

3.      Shri A.K.NayakDDG/IR&NG/OFB -For information and N/A please.

            4.  Shri S.K.Singh Dir/IR/OFB-For information and N/A please.

            5.  SHRI Biswajeet Sarkar,US(D-FY-1)/MoD,New Delhi

            6. Shri VedPal Yadav,General Secretary/CDRA,New Delhi